![]() I think a top mount would keep working for longer, as it would cover more surface area as the liquid dissipated, where the working surface area in a front-mount config would drop steadily as the liquid level went down. It would be a little worse, probably getting air to the pump a little before the vertical mount would, but in both cases, the AIO would probably have lost cooling efficiency long before, because water wouldn't be getting to the whole radiator. I think the actual failure point wouldn't be that much different with a top mount. I guess the pump would never go dry in the config, even if the water in the radiator dropped quite low, because the intake hose would always be at the lowest point of the loop? (ie, using two fans on a 240mm AIO, and then a third fan just attached directly to the case top if there's enough room.)Īha, I see how the vertical/front mount could work okay, if the top of the radiator was higher than the CPU. You can also exhaust out the back, and possibly in line with the AIO if it's shorter than the case. The pump never goes dry, and you get its full service life.Įdit to add: with a top-mount, you set the fans to exhaust mode instead of intake mode, so your CPU runs a few degrees hotter, but if you've got enough incoming airflow to begin with, it's usually not an issue. ![]() With some AIOs, you can just top them off, and everything's fine. You don't find out about your bubble by the AIO permanently dying, you find out about it by hearing sloshing sounds when you move it. As soon as a big enough air bubble develops, the pump goes dry and burns itself out.Ī top-mount AIO usually means that the CPU is at the bottom of the loop, so the cooler will keep working even if quite a large air bubble develops. I think it's best to transplant everything to a well vented full tower for longevity reasons.ĭon't you normally want the AIO on top anyway? Almost all AIOs will slowly lose liquid, and with a front mount, the CPU is at the top of the loop, typically also where the pump is. ![]() I suppose I could keep it the way it is but I would worry about it's longevity running at such high temps over time. You can't defeat the laws of physics no matter how nice sounding the sales pitches are. The heat coming off the 3080 was impressive, and had no where to go. GPU was reporting 80c (possibly throttled), CPU was 60c at 50% load and the fans were screaming. When I put my hand on the side of the case and it was a hot and then I opened the case door and it was like a small space heater. ![]() I didn't bother taking temp measurements of the inside of the case. I agree about fat/tall cases, which is why I ordered a Phanteks enthoo pro 2. I would say it's right on par with other small mid tower ATX designs from Dell and others. I was hoping they had done their homework and had done testing on their build. I should have known that a single exhaust fan (140mm) would not be able to exhaust all that heat. I mean, look at their marketing was counting on them being a premier boutique gaming computer builder. For the amount they charge, OP should gotten a solution ready to accept any modern card.Įdit: and note that their headline sell on that case is that it's really super awesome for thermals, which OP promptly disproved by adding a 3080. They're supposed to be a super-premium no-hassles brand, and if they're using that ancient case design in 2021, they're not doing their jobs. I agree with the OP that Falcon NW is blowing it here. Those old two-intake-one-exhaust cases were designed when people didn't even think about watt ratings on CPUs and GPUs, and maybe hit their peak in the Core 2/NVidia 680 years, which were very cool compared to the modern heat monsters we're all using. All the manufacturers are up against pretty hard performance walls, so they're increasing heat output. Given the relatively compact case, it seems like the airflow design should be sufficient.Blaming the user probably isn't very constructive here, because that old standard case design really hasn't kept up with the much hotter parts we're seeing these days. It's easy to clean, and you'll want to do so pretty often. There's a fine filter that slides in between the front cover and the front fans that stops a lot of dust, given that air's pulled in through the front and pushed straight through to vent out the back. No more annoying than a typical case, but the side and front cover mounts are so elegantly designed that I expected a pressure plate, thumbscrews or something more creative. The case has tool-free entry, with easy-to-remove sides, but if you plan to do a lot of card swapping, you may get annoyed by the edge connector recess and small screws. 1x Gigabit Ethernet, 1x 2.5Gb Ethernet, Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200
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